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Software engineer feels undervalued after being tasked with training higher-paid fresh graduates

SINGAPORE: A 28-year-old software engineer whose salary has remained at S$3,500 a month says he feels β€œdemoralised” after being tasked with training newly hired fresh graduates who are reportedly earning around S$5,500 a month.

In a post shared on Reddit on Tuesday (Jun 2), the engineer said he has been with his company for four years and currently handles a wide range of responsibilities, including maintaining production servers, developing new applications and features, automation work, and both frontend and backend development. His work primarily involves Python, Java, and frontend technologies.

When he first joined the company, the team consisted of 10 employees. Over the years, however, staff departures steadily reduced the team to just three people as colleagues left for better opportunities or moved into different industries altogether.

β€œThe HR has refused to replace them until recently, so the workload has increased significantly,” he continued.Β 

β€œI started with a diploma and completed my degree part-time 2 years ago while working full-time. I’ve been told promotions are frozen and, from what I can see, nobody in the company has been promoted in the last 2 years. It’s a GLC, and my managers have actually been supportive and have tried pushing HR on my behalf, so I don’t think they’re the issue.”

He was shocked, however, when the company hired two fresh graduates to replace a departing team member.Β 

According to him, the new hires have β€œnon-tech degrees” and are earning salaries of about S$5,500 a month.

β€œI’m now responsible for teaching them from scratch because they have little to no technical background,” he added. β€œI’m happy we’re finally getting more manpower, but it’s hard not to feel demoralised when I’m earning much less while handling production systems and training new hires.”

Unsure whether his frustration is justified, he asked other locals: β€œAm I being unreasonable for feeling underpaid, or should I just be grateful I still have a stable job in this market? Would you stay, keep applying, or take the risk and leave?”

Struggling to secure a new job

The engineer also revealed that he has been attempting to leave the company for more than a year.

Although recruiters regularly reach out to him and he occasionally lands interviews with larger technology firms, he has not managed to convert those opportunities into job offers.

β€œI’ve passed several online coding assessments, but after that I usually get rejected or ghosted. It’s made me wonder if maybe my current pay is just what the market thinks I’m worth.”

These ongoing challenges, he admitted, have also led him to consider taking a temporary break from work.

β€œPart of me feels I need a break after working full-time while doing a part-time degree for 3 years, but I’m worried a long employment gap could make things even harder if the market gets worse.”

Financially, he believes he is in a relatively stable position. β€œFinancially, I have about SGD 110k saved (80k in tech stocks and 30k cash), no dependents, and no immediate plans for marriage or BTO for at least another couple of years.”

In terms of monthly finances, he allocates around S$1,800 towards investments in stable stocks and the S&P 500, S$400 towards cash savings, and roughly S$600 for other expenses.

β€œYou are severely underpaid.”

The post quickly gained traction on the forum, drawing more than 106 responses in less than 24 hours.

Many users felt the author was being underpaid and encouraged him to start looking for better opportunities elsewhere.

One user told him, β€œYou are definitely underpaid as a degree holder, and never trust the company to promote cause I was in the same situation as ya. They are holding you while they get new hires in. Just apply for new roles. Company will never appreciate you. We are just disposable assets. Look at the MNCs recently.”

Another said he could understand the frustration, writing, β€œThis is why I hate corporate. Hire 2 pax in S$5.5k but they are less competent than you, and you literally have to teach them. Such nonsense exists only in corporate. It’s damn stupid. I feel damn bad for you.” 

A third commenter agreed that the author was underpaid but suggested that sharing his salary history with recruiters may have hurt his chances of getting better offers.Β 

β€œYou are severely underpaid, though it’s neither you nor the fault of the company. And, perhaps critically and sadly, if you revealed your salary to recruiters, that may what did you in. Unfortunately, with the market now: job hug, but furiously find job – and do your very best not to reveal salary.” 

Some users also urged the author not to stay in a job where he felt undervalued. One commenter said, β€œScrew those that said never leave before securing [another job]. If you have savings, just go for it!”/TISG

Read also: β€˜There’s 0 flexibility’: Singapore worker opens up about burnout and workplace stress

This article (Software engineer feels undervalued after being tasked with training higher-paid fresh graduates) first appeared on The Independent Singapore News.

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Foreign worker offered S$2k salary for 14-hour shifts sparks concern online, netizens say conditions are β€˜insane’

SINGAPORE: A foreign worker sparked concern online after sharing details of a cooking job in Singapore that would require him to work up to 14 hours a day for a monthly salary of just S$2,000.

Posting on the r/asksg forum on Saturday (May 30), the worker said his contract stated a 44-hour work week. However, he claimed that the staff roster he had seen told a different story, with employees allegedly working around 14 hours a day and receiving only one or two rest days a month.

β€œI have seen the roster schedule, and everybody is doing 14 hrs a day, and they only have 1 or 2 days off a month only,” he wrote. β€œThey even fight for a day off.”

To make matters worse, incentives would only be available after completing three months on the job, while his seven days of annual leave would only become available after a full year of service.

Unfamiliar with Singapore’s job market, the worker turned to Reddit to ask whether such conditions were normal for cooks in the F&B industry.

β€œIs this normal for a cook job in Singapore?” he asked. β€œI would appreciate any advice from people working in F&B.”

In an edit to his post, the worker revealed he had already accepted the offer and signed the contract because his visa was due to expire in just two weeks.

β€œPLEASE RUN IF YOU CAN.”

The post quickly drew strong reactions from netizens, many of whom were shocked by the long hours and low pay. Several commenters said the arrangement sounded excessive and urged the worker to look elsewhere for employment.

One user called the conditions β€œinsane,” while another said, β€œ2 off days per month? This is extortion. To put it into perspective, you are working 14 hours per day, that’s 28 days of working in a month (2 off days per month), and you’re working 14 hours x 28 days in a month = 392 hours in a month. S$2,000/392 = S$5/hour? Even McDonald pays better.”

A third wrote, β€œMy dear, you’re a COOK, which demands more technical skills. PLEASE RUN IF YOU CAN. S$2,000 can be earned by doing part-time service staff alone. Do not get played.”

A fourth added, β€œThat schedule is crazy even by F&B standards. To be honest, 14 hours a day plus only 2 off days a month is going to burn you out hard, and 7 days’ leave after 1 year is low. I’d start looking around for other kitchens, but yeah, everything is trash now. Finding a job is miserable.”

According to the Ministry of Manpower (MOM), a new hire can still back out of a job offer even after signing a letter of employment, provided they have not yet started work on their first day.

In such situations, the individual is expected to notify the employer and, where possible, provide a reason for withdrawing.

MOM notes on its website: β€œIf an employee does not show up on the first day of work, the Employment Claims Act does not apply as the employee has not started work.”

Moreover, employers cannot claim notice pay or compensation under the Act, although they may still choose to file a civil claim in court.

Read also: β€˜Why is it so hard for everyone to shower in the morning?’: MRT commuter breaks down over poor hygiene on public transport

This article (Foreign worker offered S$2k salary for 14-hour shifts sparks concern online, netizens say conditions are β€˜insane’) first appeared on The Independent Singapore News.

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